Gun carrying on campus an issue with support of some local lawmakers, but not University System
by Winston Jones/Times-Georgian
Jan 23, 2013 | 2568 views | 6 6 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Debate over gun laws has spilled onto the college campus in Georgia, where student groups and some lawmakers want licensed owners to be able to carry their firearms.

The Georgia General Assembly passed legislation in 2010 that expanded where people with carry permits could take weapons, but churches, colleges and schools were excluded under that law. The law says that students can keep weapons locked in their cars, but not in their dorms or classrooms. Georgia law also prohibits anyone under the age of 21 from carrying a gun for any purpose other than hunting.

The Georgia House may soon be considering House Bill 29, introduced by newly elected state Rep. Charles Gregory, R-Kennesaw, which would allow carrying and possession of firearms on postsecondary school campuses. The bill was pre-filed on Dec. 19, but hasn’t yet been brought forward for committee assignment or debate.

Many legislators, including some from Carroll County, have indicated they are for carrying rights on campus.

The University System of Georgia, however, has lobbied against campus carry and University of West Georgia Police Chief Thomas J. Mackel said Wednesday that he feels firearms and college campuses are not a good mix.

“College campuses have their own set of problems and putting firearms on them will not make them safer places,” Mackel said. “College campuses are now among the safest places in the country. If we allow firearms, I can’t say that.”

He said students often lack maturity and they’re in situations involving alcohol and drugs, which can easily lead to violence.

Students for Concealed Carry is one group pushing for allowing guns on campus. Although the group doesn’t currently have a chapter on the UWG campus, it is active on at least six state campuses, including Georgia Tech, Georgia State, University of Georgia, Kennesaw State University, Southern Polytechnic State University and Clayton State University.

“We’re not trying to say who can carry, but where they can carry,” Kurt Mueller, director of strategy for the national SCC organization, said Wednesday. “Permitted people are not causing problems in other places and it’s reasonable to believe they wouldn’t cause problems on campus.”

Mueller also pointed out that carry permits are only for people age 21 and older and not all students would qualify.

James Camp, Temple, a co-founder of GeorgiaCarry.org, said his group supports House Bill 29 and the right to carry guns on campus.

“It doesn’t open the door for anyone to carry, just those with weapon carry licenses,” Camp said. “They have to go through a background check and it’s only adults, 21 and older. A weapon-carry license is just that. It’s not a license to use a firearm. Other laws govern the use of it, such as anyone using a firearm in a reckless manner or under the influence of drugs or alcohol.”

But the public might not be ready for campus-carry. In an exclusive 11 Alive/SurveyUSA poll conducted last week, 65 percent of the respondents said the law should remain as it is, banning guns on campus, while 29 percent said students and staff should be allowed to arm themselves on campus.

Some members of the Carroll County legislative delegation on Wednesday spoke in favor of campus carry.

“As a strong outspoken supporter of our constitutional right to bear arms, I would support campus carry,” District 68 Rep. Dustin Hightower, R-Carrollton, said in a e-mail statement. “When we restrict law abiding citizens from carrying a firearm, we are putting them at a great disadvantage when it comes to protecting themselves against those whom do not respect the law or the lives of others. The reading of the 2nd Amendment has always been quite simple for me, ‘the right of the people to keep and bears Arms, SHALL not be infringed.’ When these cowardly, heartless and misguided individuals commit these massacres on school campuses, they are picking these locations for a reason — and that reason is — they know we have disarmed our law abiding citizens and therefore there is no one to point a gun back in their face.”

District 18 Rep. Kevin Cooke, R-Carrollton said he supports allowing campus carry within the state of Georgia.

"Gun-free zones provide areas where law abiding citizens are unarmed and cannot protect themselves," he said. "Individuals with criminal intent know this and take advantage of it. Removing the 'gun free zone' label from Georgia campuses will allow for those law-abiding citizens, with a carry and conceal permit, the ability to protect themselves.”

Although campus carry legislation hasn’t been introduced in the state Senate, District 28 state Sen. Mike Crane, R-Newnan, indicated Wednesday he supports the idea.

“I support the right for law-abiding citizens to protect themselves by allowing them to choose when, where and what means of defense serves them best,” Crane said. “Restrictions only limit those who obey the law and have no effect on the criminal or mentally unstable elements in our society.”

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bugdad
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January 24, 2013
oops. I put in an extra school or church after wal mart. sorry
bugdad
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January 24, 2013
RE: having guns equal to the oppressive government.

Who decides what is oppressive? Some people think that all government is oppressive. If a police officer stops a car for speeding and the driver says he is being oppressed, should he be allowed to shoot the officer?

Your right to bear arms can't infringe on my rights to feel safe and secure, which I wouldn't with a bunch of 'citizens" with no firearms training carrying guns to church or school. I have seen these citizens in Walmart or convenience stores toting their guns at my church or school, and they are a danger to everyone because they have no clue about weapon retention the way they ignore the people round them.
YeahBuddy!
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January 24, 2013
I sure want to carry my weapons on the West Georgia Campus! My grades surely will improve and liberal Professors will now fear and respect me! The girls will love my new guns and my big bullets!

I also want to carry my big guns into church so I can feel closer to God!

Yep, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison only knew about a single shot musket ball. How proud of their 2nd Amendment would they be seeing me load up my AR-15 with a 30 round clip!

Yeah Buddy...I am now a real man with 30 bullet clips and a big gun in Church and on Campus.

God Bless Wayne Lapierre & the NRA! They are the real leaders of the Republican Party. God Bless Wayne's duty bound followers, Trusty Dusty, Landslide James, Kevin the Man and Big Mike.

I wonder if Trusty Dusty will also allow guns in the court room. I'm sure the Judge, jury, plaintiffs and defendents will all respect each others' 2nd Amendment rights; especially the lawyers rights!
HarrisonBergeron
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January 24, 2013
Criminals do not care about gun laws; that's what make them criminals. Gun-free zones are nothing more than areas in which thugs have free range at harming law-abiding citizens, who have been disarmed by the government.

Disarming citizens in this country make liberals feel safer only because liberals are ignorant about firearms, and they rely mainly on emotions to govern their lives, as opposed to reason and logic. For an example, see the rant (riddled with exclamation points) above.
YeahBuddy!
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January 24, 2013
@HarrisonBergeron - Sir, how dare you suggest that I'm a librul and not a 'merican. I am a God fearing, gun totin' red blooded Republican 'merican. Every morning, I pledge allegiance to Wayne LaPierre and then Grover Norquist and then Rush Limpballs and then John Boehner and sometimes Saxby what's his name.

I agree, let's abolish all gun free zones and let everyone tote their shootin' piece where ever they want. I do believe the Church is a gun free zone and it shouldn't be. Just think, if everyone toted their shootin' piece to Church, the Deacons would ensure a fuller collection plate and the congregation would ensure a shorter sermon.

Hallalueah, amen and pass the bullets please.
OldTaxpayer
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January 24, 2013
Maybe if YeahBuddy was really a student he could research how the founding fathers actually felt about citizens having arms EQUAL TO the potentially oppressive governments arms.

These emotional responses to practical solutions to problems we have in our society are not going to help find workable solutions.